CRT PC Monitors in 2019 – Ancient Trash or Display Treasure?

CRT PC Monitors in 2019 – Ancient Trash or Display Treasure?

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In 2019, CRT Monitors and TVs might seem like ancient artifacts of another millennia, but some people (myself included) still cling to them. Why would someone want to use such boxy, heavy beasts as computer monitors? What benefits do they have to offer?

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https://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2016/12/high-dynamic-range-hdr-explained/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scan_line
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_dynamic_range
https://www.pcmag.com/encyclopedia/term/40512/crt
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/news/2011-01-04-e-waste_N.htm
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/z4gv73/americas-television-graveyards
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/mbbqx3/company-that-abandoned-56000-tons-of-tvs-in-an-ohio-warehouse-ordered-to-pay-dollar142-million
http://www.peachpit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=759704&seqNum=2
https://smashboards.com/threads/where-can-i-buy-crt-tvs-cheap.274124/
https://www.geek.com/games/john-carmack-coded-quake-on-a-28-inch-169-1080p-monitor-in-1995-1422971/

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  • EposVox1

    February 18, 2019

    Some have expressed unhappiness with the current offerings of CRT communities in my video, and I get why. I've made a channel for it in my discord server! I'm as welcoming as I can be! (which might not say much) https://eposvox.com/discord

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  • TJK1522

    February 18, 2019

    Where can I buy a Dell M770 for free or cheap?

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  • andreiradu19453

    February 18, 2019

    Ffs i hate hidden ads in your vids.

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  • MylarBalloonLover4

    February 18, 2019

    I still stick to 4:3 LCD monitors from the 00s. CRTs hurts my eyes

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  • Zed Isdead5

    February 18, 2019

    A grown man with a Pikachu hat. I wonder if he likes to go to playgrounds

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  • John Long6

    February 18, 2019

    I still have and use that Onkyo amp.

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  • Tom 24047

    February 18, 2019

    Crts are too large.

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  • Zilo8

    February 18, 2019

    F

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  • Alexander Adelmann9

    February 18, 2019

    I wish there were companies that kept pushing CRT technology, just for the fuck of it. I'm going to miss these things in 20 years when we're likely not going to be able to find them anymore.

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  • N R10

    February 18, 2019

    You've a lot of good info in this video.

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  • Kragatar11

    February 18, 2019

    I use a CRT when I'm playing retro games on emulator. Games from the N64/PSX age and earlier look way better on CRT than LCD. Sometimes old shows and movies can too, especially if they're in 4:3 ratio.
    …but everything else looks way better on LCD.

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  • Assad Ali12

    February 18, 2019

    closest thing to CRT would be plasma which had a short run

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  • BasiltheBatlord37713

    February 18, 2019

    I came into this video as a skeptic, and you converted me to CRT fan. I was quite surprised to learn how advanced this old technology was in the early 2000s. What a great, informative video!

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  • Jason howe14

    February 18, 2019

    unless the monitors ou are using support output spec of 1080p and the latter 4k

    you wasting time try to use the crt..

    Most VGA connections for the 3-5 years have suppoted 1080p -4k over vga..

    so a sub 90's mid 2005 vga monitor isn't going to support these resolutions..

    if you reallly want to look at 1080p or 4k resolution

    the most resolution you are likely to get is 720p on most cd to dvd based media, so trying to force an upscale to 1080i or 1080p if the game supported it, as far as native resolutions go 720×576 wold be a plausible outcomes as this the max resolution you obtain on s-video and so forth..

    I have no clue of what s-video is like in the ntsc-j and ntsc-us arena ..

    however you might be able to force a resolution of 720×5776 either on on vcd1.0 or vcd 2.0 what might be usable from the sega saturn and dream cast vs what came before…

    looking at snes-wii you can likely get the best resolution from the s-video cable as I do s-video will work on a snes console as i diid an s-video setup to a tv i owned

    With the likes of hdmi cables being available for the the ps2, xbiox , 360, dream cast

    If you don't push past the limitation of the original media you can likely upto 720p on mostr resolutionsa..

    I can't comment on component cables on nintendo consoles and how far back you can go in hardware use past the the gamecube not likely

    the best resolution out of composite capable tv's is going to be lcd based tv's for most games that aren't light gun based games

    And the lcd tv oif the 10 or so years is likely going to give the best resolution over rf on rf based analog consoles

    at the end of the day you can be harming playback on original hardware..

    I grew up on on crt tv's for console use however the best playback resolution you will have is from an lcd tv interms of composite/component/s-video connection as for monitor if can push more resolution for from vga and scart all the power to you though pushing past 720×576 may create lag and cause more issues in upscaling to a faormat the original hardware didn't support originally

    I know external processor scalers help you in some degres however you might harm playability trying to force resolution the hardware was never designed for..

    at the end of the day do what you like in terms of what you want to use as a monitor

    Once you step into a larger display it is bery hat to return to a a smaller display after that..

    I hate to tell you this looking at 4k material on a less than 32 nch display looks real bad

    as for these gaming monitors people use I will say this you waste a lot of cash on these for the highest resolution plausible ..

    Unless your vga monitor was built within the last 10 years It is pointless to consider it as a viewing option

    from a pc perspective everythign within the last 5 or so years has had a vga support of 1080p..so my las 5 laptops have told me..

    I haven''t bother with pc based monitors in the last 5-7 years because the tvs of this generation function just fine as a gaming monitor whether you use HDMI or vga..

    you might waste upto $2,500 on upto 32 inch "gaming" monitors

    Though have you ever thought to hook your pc up to your 56+ inch tv via hdmi or vga..

    from what I have seen from a console perspective between both xbox one, xbox one x, ps4 and ps4 pro we are getting there however you still need to external devices to improve 4k resolution and this on genral gamepkay..

    in years to come I think we are going to be looking at somethigni n
    similar to mame for retro console streaming for the best resolution possible…

    because unlees you have a a big are to mount the conisoles in you aren't going to have an option

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  • dudewtf177615

    February 18, 2019

    Also I with I kept my 3 flat glass crt's!!!

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  • dudewtf177616

    February 18, 2019

    Dude I've been trying to explain this shit to my friends for years. They think just cause its a flat panel, its more superior.

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  • Greg Frost17

    February 18, 2019

    I have a Loewe Aconda 9381 capable of running 1080p through Scart RGB. Not sure how to though…It has a space for VGA on the board, I wish someone had one of those kits, would be awesome to see how it performs in 2019.

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  • James Rodgers18

    February 18, 2019

    I miss my old CRT

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  • Kain19

    February 18, 2019

    What's the game at 17:22?

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  • AI20

    February 18, 2019

    I'm going to test it soon with RPI2. The RPI2 does also have a 64bit soc so we'll see.

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  • twizz21

    February 18, 2019

    F

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  • HAWXLEADER22

    February 18, 2019

    Only in recent Years I understood why PCs struggled with PS2 games….
    the ps2 didn't run on 1280 on 1024 at 80 hz… PC games did.
    HD gaming was always a part of my life.

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  • Patrick Carlson23

    February 18, 2019

    Thats cute and all but try gaming on a 21:9 34 inch that shit is bomb

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  • TheNewGreenIsBlue24

    February 18, 2019

    I used an old ViewSonic… also had a Widescreen 16:10 CRT that I worked on ages ago…

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  • ะ’ะตะฝัŒั‚ะตะปัŒ25

    February 18, 2019

    Harmful to the eyes, they will bleed ๐Ÿ™‚

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  • outsighting _26

    February 18, 2019

    I have that ViewSonic. Using it right now. This video actually made me dig it out lol. Edit: Actauly, mine is the E771

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  • Brendan Labadie27

    February 18, 2019

    I used to have a huge IBM 22โ€ Flat front CRT with DVI input and I miss it so much

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  • Retro28

    February 18, 2019

    This video actually came around on my feed at just the right time. I'm building a new rig and considering shunting the old one into a modified IBM case from my childhood in order to create a modern sleeper. This is a really great jumping off point when it comes to CRT stuff for someone that never really knew too much about computers growing up other than that I could play Doom, Warcraft, Unreal and Wolfenstein E.T. with friends.
    The idea of playing DOOM 2k16 on a sleeper with a CRT is just too cool not to do.

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  • Sod White29

    February 18, 2019

    2:48 Jesus, there it is, the Gateway 300. For five large in 1997 my folks and I thought we were hot shit. That's the machine I outflew the rest of my squadron in X-Wing vs TIE then later lost my ass in Age of Empires because it was the bane of my existence.

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  • Krane30

    February 18, 2019

    CRTs are dead and they're not coming back. Is this a technology channel or a retro channel?

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  • Spacecookie31

    February 18, 2019

    I had an old 22" monster until the mid 2000's, but it ate too much electricity, and no-one was prepared to repair it if it went wrong. Then I ended up with a video card installed without any VGA ports, so I had to update and get rid of the old monitor to recycling. I really miss 4:3 aspect ratio and the monster sized screen.

    Ah, the good ol' days.

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  • Eternal32

    February 18, 2019

    i still like massive ultrawide curved screens better

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  • Wensleydale33

    February 18, 2019

    I just miss the scaling. You could switch to any resolution you liked, provided it was supported, and the CRT was like, "Yeah, not a problem. I can do that." I love my giant LCD display, but I do wish it could scale down from native without looking like someone's smeared Vaseline all over the screen. I still play a bunch of older games on a CRT, because it just looks better.

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  • Agamaz34

    February 18, 2019

    wow

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  • dodge245135

    February 18, 2019

    yea, i agree we had great reolutions and Framerates on CRT.. but your eye health will suffer on CRTs, and thats a big enough reason for me to use LCD/OLED etc

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  • Cr4zy Rogue36

    February 18, 2019

    "This era of PC gaming was so much better" lOl no.

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  • Cr4zy Rogue37

    February 18, 2019

    HOW are all those beige boxes less boring??? They look waaay more boring and ugly to me.

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  • JULEMANDEN9938

    February 18, 2019

    i remmeber playing neverwinter night 2 and having lag because of the crt screen so i had to buy a new screen and borgt a lcd screen with 60hrz and the problem was fixed and now your saying that crt is better then screens we are using curently atleast youtube exist now so if someone wants to upgrade they can know they can go to the dump and grab 1 of them and use them for mordern gaming (yes its a joke but hey i will try and see if the crt monitor at my parrents is still there just to try it out)

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  • Iulian Dita39

    February 18, 2019

    What game is that at 14:45?

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  • MatrixAlphaCWX40

    February 18, 2019

    Perfect example. Watch Season 1-3 Walking dead on the CRT. It looks beautiful. Season 4 and up SD DVD quality Majorly improved with no more blocking on LED/LCD's. Crt was great at hiding microblocking. If you dont believe me put in season 1 DVD watch a few minutes then put in season 4.on your new Big Tv's. Big Big difference.

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  • Paul-Sebastian Manole41

    February 18, 2019

    A documentary in YouTube bedroom vlog format. Should have had a damn TLDR in the 1st minute of it!

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  • 30G42

    February 18, 2019

    I overclocked 144hz to 146hz

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  • SHUJINCELL43

    February 18, 2019

    LMFAO this dude made a video about CRTs. Been telling people for years #CRTsAintDead. I had 3 Triniton E540s. Down to one. Still have quite a bit of Diamondtrons too. Years ago I used to work for a warehouse that had all of the 30-36" Apple 4:3 displays. From what I remember they sold em off for $50/each because the monitors weighed around 225LB. The wide screen trinitrons we're good too.

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  • Phillip Nunya44

    February 18, 2019

    It's fine if you like CRT stuff, but modern displays are just better. Cheap LCD displays may have meh colors sometimes, but you can get an amazing display if you spend the same money you would have spent on a new CRT display twenty or thirty years ago.

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  • Muranaman45

    February 18, 2019

    I'll give you 4 reasons why I chose LCD over CRT anytime:
    1- Because LCD does not have a neutron cannon in the back, beaming dangerous UV rays that will deteriorate your eyes.
    2- Because LCDs today, can be gotten at much larger screen sizes than CRT monitors
    3- Because they are portable and thin, which allows for larger monitors to fit on smaller desks, all while leaving more desk space for real computer stuff, like USB sticks and keyboards and joysticks.
    4- Because the electric consumption cost of a 20" CRT, equals about that of a 60" LCD.

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  • Mergatroid Mania46

    February 18, 2019

    I am an engineering technologist, and an avid gamer. I was servicing mono, CGA, VGA, NTSC and high resolution CRT monitors when they were first being manufactured. The only advantage I see in a CRT is the reduced blur. Of course, this is only a thing if you have a monitor with fast phosphor. There were monitors that were specifically made with phosphor that had a high persistence, and those monitors would blur.
    Trinitron monitors were not very good, flat or not. Pretty much all of them had one or two aperture grille wires (depending on the size of the tube) holding up the aperture grille at the front interior of the tube. This would result in a shadow of one or two horizontal wires going across the display.
    Newer monitors with flat screens, because of the aperture grille, would also have square pixels very similar to a LCD.
    High resolution monitors required very active, prone to breakdown high voltage and deflection circuits, as well as high current geometry circuits. These circuits were the most common failure of CRT monitors, and could cause burning, sparks, arcing and even fire depending on whether or not the fuse would blow. Every time you changed resolution, the driver circuits driving the high voltage, deflection and geometry circuits would have to change the voltages. The more supported resolutions, the more circuitry was required to achieve the correct display. Each resolution had it's own horizontal frequency, and because of that fact, each resolution required it's own geometry circuit. Creating a higher refresh rate monitor required yet more high voltage/current magic, placing a fairly high strain on the components in the monitor.
    With some small exceptions, CRT monitors were also not widescreen, and widescreen is vastly superior to 4 x 3 your get from a CRT.
    The amount of heat produced by a CRT was quite a bit higher than an LCD, especially the newer LED backlight driven LCD monitors. And, while we're talking about lighting, I don't think we really want to talk about the effects of staring at a CRT for hours on end. Some people complain about LCD monitors, but you don't know the meaning of eye strain until you have played Star Craft or Diablo II for 12 hours straight on a CRT. Of course, having an electron stream aimed right at you face will tend to do that.
    As for playing game consoles on a CRT monitor, well, you could always use an NTSC (USA/Canada) or a PAL (UK) monitor, and they will use composite video. Any Amiga, or Commodore 64 monitor that's still working should do the job.
    But, why would you want to use a CRT anyway (unless you're using it on a really old composite video computer or game console)? They're hot, low res (unless you get a tank, like a 20" or 21", and then you're still stuck with 4 x 3 aspect ratio, and they're as heavy as fuck). Go ahead and ask how thick the glass has to be on a Trinitron monitor to allow a flat screen with a vacuum inside the tube. I have spent quite a few days lying in bed wishing I had never lifted that 21" CRT monitor.
    The only real advantage they have these days is that you can pick them up cheap. Of course, they are old now, and it's likely they will break down after not too much use (capacitors don't last forever).
    Back then, I had rows and rows of monitors, both in warranty and out of warranty, waiting for service. They broke down so much, one year my boss gave everyone a double paycheque at Christmas, and he was a cheap-ass, but we were repairing so many CRT monitors that he could easily afford it.
    Cut to years later, when LCD monitors were using CCFL backlights, and the most common failure was the backlights, and the inverter boards that run them. Of course, those circuits also required high voltage.
    Now, in the 21st century, we have white LEDs which, although not perfect, are much more reliable than either CRT or CCFL-LCD. Now, in our shop, the most common failure in an LCD/LED monitor is the panel itself, not the backlights, and we see very few of those. Monitors are no longer a high failure rate product like they used to be.

    Yeah, as someone who lived it, both from a gamer perspective and a servicer perspective, I'll take an LCD monitor over a CRT any day of the week.

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  • thefinalroman47

    February 18, 2019

    I had 2 monster $5,000 Sony Crt pc monitors i got for free 5 years ago and trashed them but they did have amazing picture

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